ELT Live - 'Start of the Semester - Korean University Edition'

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ELT  Live Webcast
'Start  of the Semester - University Edition'
August 28, 2014
A Group of University Instructors in Korea 'hangout' and discuss our approaches to the first week or two of classes and what projects and goals we're working on for this coming semester. 


Participants
Jeff Lebow (you)'s profile photoLauren Harvey's profile photoSunny Lim's profile photoDaniel Craig's profile photobrian dean's profile photo

Links Mentioned


Next Show: Tuesday, September 2, 2014  8pmKST, 1100GMT Global Times
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Topic: Hows, Whats, and Whys (or why nots) of class websites and other online resources. 


Chat Log Below

 

jefflebow
We'll be starting soon... Stay tuned.
 
Gast 317
  
 
 
Hi to all from an Englishman in North Germany.
 
 
hello~~~^^
 
welcome to ELT Live, Gast 317
 
Gast 317
  
 
 
Thanks! Gast 317 = Dennis (Newson) Osnabrueck, Germany.
jefflebow
Dennis, can you hear the audio?
Gast 317
  
 
 
Very clearly.
Daniel Cross
 
I'm now following through chat, I'm a bit too distracted to keep up with the cam
 
Daniel Cross
 
Why am i undefined
Rob Dickey is watching...
 
Why am i undefined
 
 
there we go
 
Nina Liakos
 
Hello all from Maryland, USA
 
 
Hi nina
 
Nina Liakos
 
That's a lot of preps!
 
jefflebow
Hello Nina
jefflebow
and Rob
Nina Liakos
 
Tuesday morning for us in Maryland, because of Labor Day.
 
What apps or tools are you using for the flipping?
Nina Liakos
 
Hi Jeff!
Gast 317
  
 
 
Hi, Nina.
Nina Liakos
 
I always start out with diagnostics, because I have to, and housekeeping tasks like student information sheet, syllabus, and of course some kind of icebreaker.
Daniel Craig
 
Daniel Cross, I've used a few different screencast utilities: Present.me has been my favorite so far in terms of quality, features, and ease.
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
I just read back in the chat and realized Gast is Dennis Newson. Hi Dennis!
 
 
Daniel Craig
 
Nina, I like diagnostics for my writing and listening classes. As much for me as for them.
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
@Daniel, yes, plus we need to make sure students have been placed correctly into the right level.
 
 
 
I give them 10 answers about myself and they work in partners to think of the questions
 
 
Daniel Craig
 
For me, it wouldn't really matter in terms of placement. I have to work with whoever comes to class :-) However, I could advise them to go elsewhere.
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
I like the idea of providing answers to the questions. Students always struggle with question formation.
 
 
 
ex. Then they interview each other with those questions
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
:-)
 
 
Gast 317
  
 
 
My wife always loved grouping people into what position they hada in their families - oldest, younger brother , only child etc.
 
 
fatherhood duties call. enjoy folks...
Nina Liakos
 
In writing, so they can't claim you never told them.
Nina Liakos
 
Give them an inch and they take a mile. True all opver the world, I suspect.
 
Nina Liakos
 
Are there expectations that American teachers have which Korean teachers do not have, or vice versa? How do you deal with this, as a teacher from the "target culture" in the students' educational culture?
Nina Liakos
 
How do you spell that--doctopus? How do you find it?
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
Actually I use Canvas here at UMD
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
What kind of picture file did they use?
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
I have had a lot of problems with adding timed handwritten essays to electronic portfolios.
 
 
James Buckingham
cowchat?
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
kakaochat?
 
 
jefflebow
  Kakao

 
James Buckingham
Thanks Jeff
 
 
Daniel Craig
 
Sorry, yes. Doctopus. Go to a Google Doc and go to Add-ons for find and install it.
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
Do you train your Korean students to participate orally, or do you adjust your expectations?
 
 
James Buckingham
Have you used Doctopus Dan? What's the chief advantage...
 
 
Daniel Craig
 
The pictures worked really well. Zero complaints about that. I didn't have a lot of other complaints :-)
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
Thanks
 
 
Daniel Craig
 
Document management
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
I have heard that Korean (Asian, actually) students do not want to make a mistake publically
Nina Liakos
 
whereas here we tend to think of mistakes as how you learn
Nina Liakos
 
Some of my students are reluctant to open accounts with google, and although I use google everywhere I certainly sympathize with their desire to remain off google's grid
James Buckingham
I agree Nina...
Rob Whyte
  
 
 
Jeff, any sense of what % your students use your quizzler vocab review files?
Daniel Craig
 
Jeff, I like the animation sites as well.
brian dean
 
Any thoughts on Socrative?
Daniel Craig
 
Nina, I struggled with the Google monster a little, but I decided that it was something I was willing to have them do.
Daniel Craig
 
Brian, I was just going to write about that.
 
 
Daniel Craig
 
My students have really liked Socrative both in terms of using as a student and as a teacher
 
 
brian dean
 
It has been good but little more than a game - not every student was able to connect - some had phones with low batteries...
 
 
James Buckingham
would like to learn more about it .. but more from the point of view of the data it collects on students ...
 
 
brian dean
 
I use it mostly to test comprehension - I post the questions on my powerpoint slides.
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
Low-tech way to do this: have students hold up cards with A, B, C, or D on them (front only so students are not influenced by others' choices)
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
Confession: I do not have a smart phone.
 
 
James Buckingham
the really power of these apps (i.e. Socrative) lies in the data collection.. error analysis
 
 
James Buckingham
... that can be used to check a class' general understanding of a question or set of questions
 
 
Daniel Craig
 
Apps like Socrative are great for quick and dirty assessment. Best for anonymous assessment
 
 
jefflebow
  
(Admin)
 
If anyone would like to join the hangout, we're at:https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcgbDfqF5-yrOBBumg2hBJz0Upx2lBFDU9kTpYQCWPIA1_OeQ?authuser=0&hl=en

Remember to mute the Youtube stream before joining.
 
 
James Buckingham
Apparently the data collection is there and with some depth. 
From the Socrative site.. http://socrative.com/features.php
Review student understanding in a variety of report types: whole class overview, student specific results or question by question breakdown. All the reports can be downloaded, emailed or delivered to your google drive folder at any time. They are always accessible in your Reports section.
 
 
James Buckingham
... must be off. Wish I could have come sooner .. and could stay longer. Many thanks for sharing.
 
 
jefflebow
  
(Admin)
 
Thanks for stopping by James
 
 
Daniel Craig
 
by James. Thanks for your input
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
That must have been an awesome experience for those students!
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
Thank you for inviting me. I've enjoyed listening in and commenting.
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
Have a great fall semester!
 
 
brian dean
 
Thanks for doing this, Jeff.
 
 
Daniel Craig
 
Thanks for your participation Nina. Nice to (virtually) meet you :-)
 
 
Daniel Craig
 
Take care, Brian.
 
 
Daniel Craig
 
Thanks, Jeff. It was fun.
 
 
brian dean
 
Remember all that the international conference is crazy early this year - Oct 3 or 4 to 5. KOTESOL, that is.
 
 
brian dean
 
You too, Dan.
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
8 am EDT
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
How often are you planning to do this?
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
Thanks, Jeff and all
 
 
Nina Liakos
 
Bye!
 
 
jefflebow
 Thanks very much everyone!